There are two kinds of people on God’s green Earth: Those who seek the truth, and those who seek to support their own entrenched ideas, truthful or not. I strive to be among the first group. It’s what makes me happy.
Most people, both on the left and on the right, belong to the second group.
If you care about the truth, first do everything you can to accurately identify what the other party is actually saying. It’s not always obvious. We owe it to ourselves to tease the point out of their often-clumsy words.
There are a few ways to interpret this tweet, and we can’t know which interpretation Suzie intended. We should find the strongest point she could have meant and address that one. Lazy people, who do not value the truth, will interpret it with the weakest point possible, and then attack that. Thus, we find responses such as this meme:
It’s a great meme – assuming Suzie were actually advocating for cheap labor. I don’t think most Democrats actually want migrants working for $11 an hour. Maybe some do, but I’m pretty sure most of them don’t. The meme misses the point; it’s not going to change anybody’s mind.
The strongest way we can interpret Suzie’s post is that she believes America benefits from hardworking people. She looks back at America’s history and sees pioneers breaking their backs for a pittance. This is what built America, and it’s what made America great. Therefore, we should not be deporting such people – legal or not.
My response was, speaking for MAGA, not necessarily for myself:
I didn’t want to get into the demographic aspect of it here. At least for the short term, assuming her point is valid, the solution would be seasonal work visas for workers who are vetted – and that those workers would not count toward Electoral College representation. There are, of course, other ways to address her point, but they’re only effective if we understand her point in the strongest way possible.
Suzie’s approach, according to my interpretation, is similar to my own: We want people in America who are good for America, regardless of their legal status. We would disagree about which people those would be. “Legality” is just a piece of paper from a government that hardly anybody trusts.
We did have a program for seasonal workers: it was called the Bracero Program, and AFAIK it worked pretty much as intended. A combination of the civil rights movement and a bus vs. train accident that killed 3 dozen of the migrant workers caused congress to terminate the program in 1964.
George Bush the Lesser proposed a guest worker program in 2004, but most saw it for what it really was, a transparent attempt to get around limits on legal immigration that the political class found distasteful and annoying to the donor class.
So what should a seasonal worker program look like? How about the following?
1. Limited to able bodied persons between the ages of 18 and 55. You know, people of actual working age.
2. Dependent children and the elderly would be excluded from accompanying the worker.
3. The number of women of child bearing age would be kept to a minimum, married or not.
4. Any history of a criminal record would be grounds for exclusion, and any crime committed while in the USA would be grounds for immediate expulsion.
5. Employers would be required to withhold a percentage of the workers’ wages, to be paid upon completion of the contract and used for return transportation back home.
6. Employers would also be required to use E-Verify. If they get caught hiring workers who have not officially registered with the seasonal worker program, they would incur punitive fines, with repeat offenders getting prison time.
Very reasonable proposals.
Hey, what is your opinion on this blog post from another user?His name is Uber soy.It’s pretty interested https://ubersoy.com/p/are-jews-white
Interesting article. I don’t buy this:
“all Ashkenazi Jews can trace their ancestry to a “bottleneck” of just 350 individuals, dating back to between 600 and 800 years ago.”
That was during the heyday of Jewish scholarship in France, Provence and Germany. Such a cataclysmic population reduction would have been mentioned in Jewish literature, and I don’t recall ever seeing it.
I would like to have a conversation on the future of jewish leftists Do you think they will remain leftist?Knowing that the people they Advocate openly hate them and want them dead and think they’re the same as white people There’s 2 options for them.In my view though double down on liberalism and have cognitive dissidents or they will abandoned liberalism and Realize that ethnic diversities are threatened themselves
Hey, I know a majority of studies suggest that conservatives have better mental health than liberals.But I read a study recently.Claiming it disappears when you control for something like mood is this true https://t.co/mnpZ2UNHUU
I hate to break it to you, Daniel, but I’m not an expert on everything. Obviously, you do a lot of reading, and I’m sure you have opinions of your own. You should formulate them into articles and either start your own blog or, if I deem them appropriate, I can publish them here.
Sorry about that
It’s alright. You give me more credit than I am due.